Priced at $499 and $699 respectively. At a dealer selling Gen4 G23 FDE for $530. And basic M&P models under $430 new. I realize this is exactly a sample of 2, but I wasn't shopping around very hard. No fingering tonight, either. Looking at the G41 makes me think harder about an M&P45 full of Apex parts. Smith and Wesson, YU NO M&P45 CORE??????